I’ve being baptized for 20 years now, I’ve seen a lot of injustices and also known some crook elders, but I also thought that they were isolated cases, I was made to think that it was something that was only happened in my congregation and things like this don’t happen normally. I moved around to serve where need for greater etc and still saw injustice. Finally I went threw a bit of a problem, and for the first time I personally tasted a Committee and really could feel how cold they were, and so I asked myself, “If this is what I’ve gone through, what has others gone through?” and then I went against all advice of the WTS and when on the internet. I still remember the chill that went through me when I read about Russell,1914 and the pyramids, and how I’ve being fooled and lied too in the pass 20 years.
The Lone Ranger
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WHEN DID THE PENNY DROP.....FOR YOU.
by lowden inwhat occasion or occurrence or experience made you finally say....enough is enough!!!!.
for me it was the insensitive and unfeeling way they treated me whilst dfed....for 4 yrs.
i tried and tried to please....but to no avail.. what capped it all off for you...tell me your experiences.
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HELP- Need documentation of perjury by JW's
by alamb ini am still desperately looking for documentation of cases where jw's have lied under oath, a decision has been reached by the court based on perjury committed by a jw, or the like.
i am helping on custody cases where they are urgently needed right now.
you can help a child.
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The Lone Ranger
I did a srch on google. typed in "jw lying court" and I got a list of links http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw84.html http://www.macgregorministries.org/jw_lawyers.html .. this site had an interesting line... This is "justified lying" in their minds. Since they also believe that all others except Jehovah's Witnesses are under the control of Satan, including the courts, they feel quite smug about doing so.
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Do JW's think that we are committing an "Unforgivable Sin"?
by JH inposting on xjw boards like this.
we call it freedom of expression.
but i wonder if the jw's consider this an "unforgivable sin"?.
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The Lone Ranger
Why don't I get line spacing like the rest of you ? :-(
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Do JW's think that we are committing an "Unforgivable Sin"?
by JH inposting on xjw boards like this.
we call it freedom of expression.
but i wonder if the jw's consider this an "unforgivable sin"?.
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The Lone Ranger
The Unforgiveable is going about God's spirit Luke 12:10 "And everyone that says a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but he that blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven it" Is going on this board blasphemes? They seem to think it is, because they are told that the WTS is God, and going against them is going against God, but the problem is that we here now know better then that. Also its not up to them its up to us to decide what is OK with our consceince. Ro2:15 "They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them and, between their own thoughts, they are being accused or even excused." I can't see how speaking to other people in an upbuilding way can be viewed by God or any normal person in their right mind as Blasphemes !!!!!!!
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i don't have jehobabar's spirit.
by Calliope ini'm on the phone as we speak, with my sister.. i told her i didn't feel like complicating my situation by implicating/involving people that are not "certified" in assessing my situation.. her reply "you are so scaring me.
you sound like you don't have jehovah's spirit...".
any thoughts on what i should say... i'm stalling.. cal.
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The Lone Ranger
Thats the Spirt of the WTS not Jehovahs. If someone disagrees with them, thats when they say that you dom't have Jehovahs spirit, classic scare tactics... its them who have satans sprit.
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How Do YOU View Ex Elders On This Board?
by minimus indo you think that if a person was an elder that when he comes on these boards, he still thinks and acts like an elder??
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The Lone Ranger
I always noticed it was a sad fact that the good ones would stand down out of protest to any injustices they saw, yet once tey did stand down they were silenced, the C/O didn't want to know about them anymore and he would only do his talking to the existing Elders who were the chooks to start with. If some are here on this I find them a useful source of info, but I must say i would feel very sorry being an Elder in the Watchtower, misleading the flock, DFed some of them, ruining Families, thinking I was doing it all for God and then only to find out it was a Cult of Lies. I’m sure there must be a measure of guilt and angry in them now.
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yo elders, is there a statue of limitations on "sins"?
by ?me? ini know we have heard about it as regards an elder who has "sinned" and keeps it quiet, he does not have to step down.
but when it comes to the lowly rank and file, what would you do, or "have " to do if you found out about some actions of a publisher that occurred a few years ago?
also does a person who leaves the truth and then wants to come back after a number of years have to confess to all the stuff they did when they were out ?
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The Lone Ranger
As far as I know,There's no written answer to this, I know of some JW's who drifted away, fooled around like crazy and then returned to the flock and nothing happened to them regarding their sins, yet if a JW who still attended meetings did half the things they had done he would be DFed without question. One thing I have learnt is that the Body of Elders are a law to themselves, depending on the BOE and how well you get along with them or maybe you might be related to one of them will depend on how the treat you and your sins. So sucking up to them with help a lot :-)
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WTS still racially segregated as early as July 15, 1955
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/dn-bhmswimming_22met.art.north.edition2.1358e972.html.
white flight led to swimming pool's integration.
dallas: bombings couldn't stop changes in exline park area.
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The Lone Ranger
I forgot what I was gonna say..I saw the Cleavage on stillajwexelder. sob...sob...
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Were you a popular Witness?
by Brigid innever fit in.
never cared to.
most witnesses bored me to absolute tears.
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The Lone Ranger
It’s a good question, but hard to answer truthfully, firstly how do we define “popular” in the WTS Congregations.
- There is the type who give answers on every question at every meeting, so some like to stay close to these so as to appear as ‘spiritual’ as they are, these may appear popular to others but really are a pain.
- Then there are those who are “high profile”, maybe related to Elders or C/O etc…again some stay close to these but only to suck up to the elders or C/O.
- Then there are pioneers who don’t stop boosting about it, not all are like that, but the ones who are get some who again support them but only because they are afraid to get on their wrong side.
- There are those are handsome and pretty and think they are God’s gift to the congregation, maybe because they are so good looking or other reasons which I haven’t worked out yet, they get friends because there friends want to be indentifeid in the same light.
I’m sure you can think of more people like this, so I really wonder many many times, these popular ones how really loved were they, did they really have any friends, I noticed that if some of these types left, no one really seemed to missed them. Not being popular in the JW world isn’t a bad thing, it just shows you were a good sincere and honest person. Sorry if I sound like a fruit cake. lol
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The Lone Ranger
what have you guys being smoking?